Episode 8: Courageous Conversations in the Classroom

Let's say you are an educator who knows classroom conversations about race are essential. How can you lead those conversations effectively? Matthew R. Kay wrote the book on this topic: Not Light, But Fire: How to Lead Meaningful Race Conversations in the Classroom. Join host Tony Neal and co-host Deborah Bohlmann as they discuss with Matthew his practical how-to book for educators committed to the task of open conversation on social justice. Episode produced and directed by Deborah Bohlmann. Engineering, music, and creative support by Alvin Zamudio.